Unfolding the first trifold phone

(instrumental music) – Folding phones are boring. Look we've had the first
wave of foldable devices and they're neat, but you've
seen all that already. This is about what comes next after the current generation of foldables. Sling like the tri-fold from TCL, a wild new concept, folding
tablet, phone thing. (techno-music) Unlike most foldables the
tri-fold has two hinges, which lets it fold up into thirds . You can use it as a phone, you can unfold it once
to use as a bigger screen or fold the unfolded
into a full size tablet. It's not a half way compromise
like some of the other foldables that we've seen which basically turn into just slightly
wider phone displays.

This is a full blown tablet. It's nearly as big as an iPad, but you can still fit it in your pocket. The screen folds from a 10 inch tablet down to 6.65 inch phone. You could also open it two-thirds the way and ya know prop that up it'll auto rotate so you can use in whatever
orientation you want. There's a lot of weird use cases that you could probably use this for. The screen on this one is a 3k panel, but again that's just this prototype.

We have no idea if the finished
version will have that, but the tri-fold shows just
how hard it's gonna be to turn these ideas into reality. I've gotten to play around
with the prototype for a bit and it's really rough to use right now. It is incredibly heavy for a phone. It's got those big metal hinges
and there are three separate batteries to power all those displays, it's basically three phones.

And even though it's really
thin as a tablet the phone mode is super thick and that's
before your worrying about things like the software, which is basically non-existent. Durability which is a huge question or price which who even knows. (techno music) But looking even further into the future. TCL also had a very early
mock up of a rollable phone. This is really cool idea
that's a phone that has a fully flexible display that
slides around the side and behind the phone. And it could roll back out
and become a larger display when you need more space. The way it will, in theory, work is that there's gonna be motors
on the inside of the phone and you'll press a button
and it'll expand out from a 6.75 inch display
to a 7.8 inch screen.

Now that doesn't sound like a
lot, but your actually getting almost double the screen space
it's almost twice as wide. The whole system is actually
pretty similar to the rollable Oled TV that LG's been
showing off for years. Now again this is a really early concept, it's not even a functional
device, just plastic and a screen that's literally
just a sheet of paper.

Is this a good idea? Who knows. It does avoid some of the
issues of current foldables, like those easily breakable hinges and the creased display which is cool. But it's almost guaranteed
to have issues of its own. Moving parts they're tricky. Now the tri-fold is
just a proof of concept and the plastic sliding one even more so. You won't actually be able to
buy either of these devices and it's not clear if TCL's
actually gonna make products based on these concepts in the future.

So why should you care. Well, first of all, because it's cool. I mean look at this thing
it's a phone that unfolds into a giant full size tablet. And it actually turns on and runs android, it's like a science fiction prop. But it's also important,
because TCL is planning on eventually making
foldable and rollable phones that might actually look like these. Possibly as early as next year. The company says that it's
experimenting with dozens of different form factors right now.

So it's possible that phones like these, could be real one day. Look phones have basically been the same for the last decade. Black boxes with touch screens. Devices like the tri-fold
or that sliding concept, even if they're not here yet, show off what the future phones might one day look like. And that's really exciting idea. Thanks so much for watching. If you want to see more videos
about cool phones check out our Galaxy S20 ultra review. You can actually buy that one.

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Google I/O 2021 keynote in 16 minutes

good morning everyone it's great to be back at io today i'm excited to share our latest breakthrough in natural language understanding lambda it's a language model for dialogue applications and it's open domain which means it's designed to converse on any topic and while it's still in research and development we've been using it internally to explore novel interactions for example say you wanted to learn about one of my favorite planets pluto lambda already understands quite a lot about pluto and millions of other topics let's listen to a conversation the team had with pluto a few days ago i'm so curious about you i sense your excitement ask me anything tell me what i would see if i visited you would get to see a massive canyon some frozen icebergs geysers and some craters it sounds beautiful i assure you it is worth the trip however you need to bring your coat because it gets really cold i'll keep that in mind hey i was wondering have you ever had any visitors yes i have had some the most notable was new horizons the spacecraft that visited me let's break down what made it feel so natural first learn concepts as you saw the model talked about the new horizon spacecraft and the coldness of space lambda synthesized these concepts from its training data because none of the responses were predefined lambda answered with sensible responses keeping the dialogue open-ended natural conversations are generative and they never take the same path twice and lambda is able to carry a conversation no matter what we talk about yet it's still early research so it doesn't get everything right sometimes it can give nonsensical responses imagining pluto doing flips or playing fetch with its favorite ball the moon other times it just doesn't keep the conversation go going we believe lambda's natural conversation capabilities have the potential to make information and computing radically more accessible and easier to use we look forward to incorporating better conversational features into products like google assistant search and workspace lambda is a huge step forward in natural conversation but it is still trained only on text when people communicate with each other they do it across images text audio and video so we need to build models that allow people to naturally ask questions across different types of information these are called multimodal models for example when you say show me the part where the lion roars at sunset we will get you to that exact moment in a video advances in ai are helping us reimagine what a map can be but now you can also use it to explore the world around you you'll be able to access live view right from the map and instantly see details about the shops and the restaurants around you including how busy they are recent reviews and photos of those popular dishes in addition there are a host of new features coming to live view later this year we're adding prominent virtual street signs to help you navigate those complex intersections second we'll point you towards key alarm landmarks and places that are important for you like the direction of your hotel third we're bringing it indoors to help you get around some of the hardest to navigate buildings like airports transit stations and malls indoor live you will start rolling out in top train stations and airports in zurich this week and will come to tokyo next month we're bringing you the most detailed street maps we've ever made take this image of columbus circle one of the most complicated intersections in manhattan you can now see where the sidewalks the crosswalks the pedestrian islands are something that might be incredibly helpful if you're taking young children out on a walk or absolutely essential if you're using a wheelchair thanks to our application of advanced ai technology on robust street view and aerial imagery we're on track to launch detailed street maps in 50 new cities by the end of the year so we're making the map more dynamic and more tailored highlighting the most relevant information exactly when you need it if it's 8 a.m on a weekday we'll display the coffee shops and bakeries more prominently in the map while at 5 pm we'll highlight the dinner restaurants that match your tastes you'll start seeing this more tailored map in the coming weeks people have found it really useful especially during this pandemic to see how busy a place is before heading out now we're expanding this capability from specific places like restaurants and shops to neighborhoods with the feature called area business say you're in rome and want to head over to the spanish steps and its nearby shops with area business you'll be able to understand at a glance if it's the right time for you to go based on how busy that part of the city is in real time area busyness will roll out globally in the coming months let's talk about all the ways we're innovating in shopping soon on chrome when you open a new tab you'll be able to see your open carts from the past couple of weeks we'll also find you promotions and discounts for your open carts if you choose to opt in your personal information and what's in your carts are never shared with anyone externally without your permission we capture photos and videos so we can look back and remember there are more than four trillion photos and videos stored in google photos but having so many photos of loved ones screenshots selfies all stored together makes it hard to rediscover the important moments soon we're launching a new way to look back that we're calling little patterns little patterns show the magic in everyday moments by identifying not so obvious moments and resurfacing them to you this feature uses machine learning to translate photos into a series of numbers and then compares how visually or conceptually similar these images are when we find a set of three or more photos with similarities such as shape or color we'll surface them as a pattern when we started testing little patterns we saw some great stories come to life like how one of our engineers traveled the world with their favorite orange backpack or how our product manager christy had a habit of capturing objects of similar shape and color we also want to bring these moments to life with cutting edge effects last year we launched cinematic photos to help you relive your memories in a more vivid way cinematic moments will take these near duplicate images and use neural networks to synthesize the movement between image a and image b we interpolate the photos and fill in the gaps by creating new frames the end result is a vivid moving picture and the cool thing about this effect is it can work on any pair of images whether they were captured on android ios or scanned from a photo album in addition to providing personalized content to look back on we also want to give you more control we heard from you that controls can be helpful for anyone who has been through a tough life event breakup or loss these insights inspired us to give you the control to hide photos of certain people or time periods from our memories feature and soon you'll be able to remove a single photo from a memory rename the memory or remove it entirely instead of form following function what if form followed feeling instead of google blue we imagined material you a new design that includes you as a co-creator letting you transform the look and feel of all your apps by generating personal material palettes that mix color science with a designer's eye a new design that can flex to every screen and fit every device your apps adapt comfortably every place you go beyond light and dark a mode for every mood these selections can travel with your account across every app and every device material u comes first to google pixel this fall including all of your favorite google apps and over the following year we will continue our vision bringing it to the web chrome os wearables smart displays and all of google's products we've overhauled everything from the lock screen to system settings revamping the way we use color shapes light and motion watch what happens when the wallpaper changes like if i use this picture of my kids actually getting along for once i set it as my background and voila the system creates a custom palette based on the colors in my photo the result is a one of a kind design just for you and you'll see it first on google pixel in the fall starting from the lock screen the design is more playful with dynamic lighting pick up your phone and it lights up from the bottom of your screen press the power button to wake up the phone instead and the light ripples out from your touch even the clock is in tune with you when you don't have any notifications it appears larger on the lock screen so you know you're all caught up the notification shade is more intuitive with a crisp at a glance view of your app notifications whatever you're currently listening to or watching and quick settings that give you control over the os with just a swipe and a tap and now you can invoke the google assistant by long pressing the power button and the team also reduced the cpu time of android system server by a whopping 22 percent and with android 12 we're going even further to keep your information safe to give people more transparency and control we've created a new privacy dashboard that shows you what type of data was accessed and when this dashboard reports on all the apps on your phone including all of your google apps and we've made it really easy to revoke an app's permission directly from the dashboard we've also added an indicator to make it clear when an app is using your camera or microphone but let's take that a step further if you don't want any apps to access the microphone or camera even if you've granted them permission in the past we've added two new toggles in quick settings so you can completely disable those sensors for every app android's private compute core enables things like now playing which tells you what song is playing in the background and smart reply which suggests responses to your chats based on your personal reply patterns and there's more to come later this year all of the sensitive audio and language processing happens exclusively on your device and like the rest of android private compute core is open source it's fully inspectable and verifiable by the security community with a single tap you can unlock and sign into your chromebook when your phone is nearby incoming chat notifications from apps on your phone are right there in chrome os and soon if you want to share a picture one click and you can access your phone's most recent photos to keep movie night on track we're building tv remote features directly into your phone you can use voice search or even type with your phone's keyboard we're also really excited to introduce support for digital car key car key will allow you to lock unlock and start your car all from your phone it works with nfc and ultra wideband technology making it super secure and easy to use and if your friend needs to borrow your car you can remotely and securely share your digital key with them car key is launching this fall with select google pixel and samsung galaxy smartphones and we're working with bmw and others across the industry to bring it to their upcoming cars that was a quick look at android 12 which will launch this fall but you can check out many of these features in the android 12 beta today let's go beyond the phone to what we believe is the next evolution of mobile computing the smartwatch first building a unified platform jointly with samsung focused on battery life performance and making it easier for developers to build great apps for the watch second a whole new consumer experience including updates to your favorite google apps and third a world-class health and fitness service created by the newest addition to the google family fitbit as the world's largest os we have a responsibility to build for everyone but for people of color photography has not always seen us as we want to be seen even in some of our own google products to make smartphone photography truly for everyone we've been working with a group of industry experts to build a more accurate and inclusive camera so far we've partnered with a range of different expert image makers who've taken thousands of images to diversify our image data sets helped improve the accuracy of our auto white balance and auto exposure algorithms and given aesthetic feedback to make our images of people of color more beautiful and more accurate although there's still much to do we're working hard to bring all of what you've seen here and more to google pixel this fall we were all grateful to have video conferencing over the last year it helped us stay in touch with family and friends and kept businesses and schools going but there is no substitute for being together in the room with someone so several years ago we kicked off a project to use technology to explore what's possible we call it project star line first using high resolution cameras and custom built depth sensors we capture your shape and appearance from multiple perspectives and then fuse them together to create an extremely detailed real-time 3d model the resulting data is huge many gigabits per second to send this 3d imagery over existing networks we developed novel compression and streaming algorithms that reduce the data by a factor of more than 100 and we have developed a breakthrough light field display that shows you the realistic representation of someone sitting right in front of you in three dimensions as you move your head and body our system adjusts the images to match your perspective you can talk naturally gesture and make eye contact it's as close as we can get to the feeling of sitting across from someone we have spent thousands of hours testing it in our own offices and the results are promising there's also excitement from our lead enterprise partners we plan to expand access to partners in healthcare and media thank you for joining us today please enjoy the rest of google i o and stay tuned for the developer keynote coming up next i hope to see you in person next year until then stay safe and be well

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DJI Osmo Mobile 2 hands-on

– So I am recording
this little selfie video with the DGI Osmo 2,
which is a handheld gimbal that keeps your phone
steady and can do stuff like track your face,
track other people's faces, and lets you make way
better video with your phone than you could if you were just holding it with your stupid, dumb hand. (upbeat music) What's amazing about this thing is it only costs 130 bucks, this
is the original Osmo Mobile, and it was retailing for about 300 bucks. The differences between these is this is a little bit lighter, it has
a longer lasting battery, which you can no longer remove. There's a few other differences
worth talking about too, but to me, the most
important difference is that this thing, in addition
to holding your phone in landscape mode can be rotated and you'll be able to
shoot in portrait mode. And as everybody knows,
portrait mode video, portrait mode selfies,
portrait mode whatever is the way that most people look at videos on their phone these days, on Snapchat, on Instagram and so on.

(upbeat music) Now if you're familiar with gimbals, a lot of the stuff I'm about to say to you is stuff you already know,
but it's worth talking about because this thing is so much cheaper than any other gimbal, it's 130 bucks so a lot more people are
gonna pick this thing up. So what this thing is
for is for stabilizing your video and giving you better, smoother tracking shots as
you move around the world. Your smartphone probably
already has a bunch of really good image stabilization, but what it doesn't have is the ability to just hold it up with one hand, way far out, and have these smooth, easy, good tracking moves.

It's so good! It also probably can't do a thing where you can track
somebody's face with it, and then it will handle
the camera movements for staying centered on their face while you pan the camera around. So you can get a bunch of shots that you wouldn't be
able to get on your own with just a phone, it's pretty cool. Now the thing you should
know about the current demo that I'm doing right here
is right now I'm using beta software and it gets
a little buggy sometimes. (laughs) Because this thing can
shoot in portrait mode, and because it can also
handle larger phones, you need to spend a
little bit more time than you might be used to adjusting it.

There's a few adjustments you can make. The first is on the clamp,
which is just sort of a, you know, spring grip
here, which isn't great. There's also another knob over here so that you can move it in and out, and the reason that that
matters is you're gonna be doing a lot more of it,
because when you switch from portrait mode to
landscape, and vice versa, you're gonna need to recalibrate
this thing every time to make sure that it stays balanced. Now I would say that's a
big knock on this thing, but the last one couldn't
even do portrait mode, so it's not that big of a deal.

So as I've been saying
over and over again, this thing, the DGI Osmo
2 is only 129 bucks, it's available for pre-order now, and if you're really looking
to up your video game with your phone, it's
almost an impulse purchase. I think a lot of people
are gonna be picking this thing up..

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Sony Xperia 1 review: a tall order

The thing that I like about Android is there can be so many
different kinds of phones, just a lot of weird choices. But lately, it seems like
there are really only two choices, at least in terms of screen size. There's regular and there's extra large, which is why I was so excited
to try this phone right here, the Sony Xperia 1. I mean, just look at this good tall boy. It's got a 21:9 aspect ratio, which makes it relatively
narrow and super, well, tall. I think it's a fascinating phone, and it's way nicer than
I expected it to be. But I don't think it can
really justify its $950 price. Let me tell you why. Now, a lot of people would
like to have a big-screened phone, but they're put off by
how big these phones feel.

And that's the reason I like the Xperia 1. It has a big screen, there
is no doubt about it. It's 6.5 inches. But it's quite a bit narrower
than this OnePlus 7 Pro here. So you get the benefits of
seeing more stuff on your screen, like on the web or on Twitter, without the drawback of
feeling like you have a big honking glass slab you can barely wrap your fingers around. This phone is also really good if you like to do split-screen apps, which… I don’t know, I guess
people still do that. I never do. Anyway, it's nicer to hold, but that doesn't make
it a one-handed phone by any stretch of the imagination.

You're still going to need
to use your second hand to reach the top of the screen. Sony has a couple of
software tricks that help with how tall this phone is, but neither of them are great. You can double tap the home button to make a smaller version of the screen. Or there's this other thing with… Er, wow. What are you
doing there, Chuckles? Huh. Sorry, let's back up. Or you're supposed to be able to tap either side of the screen or swipe on it to do other stuff. It's called Side Sense,
and it kind of sucks. I can never get it to
work when I want it to, and it pops up all of the time when I don't want it to.

Now the reason that Sony
says it made this phone at this weird, tall aspect ratio is for watching movies, and Sony says that it
has a 4K HDR OLED screen. It also has, quote, “professional
level color reproduction.” So it can be in the DCI-P3 color gamut. It can also be in the BT.2020 color space if you care about that. And it has the D65 white point. There's this whole “Creator Mode” thing. Basically, Sony is
trying to make this phone appeal to people who really
care about video quality, both watching it and recording it. But Sony, the thing is, if you're going to do that, this screen should get way brighter. It is way more dim compared
to other OLED screens. Anyway, yeah, I will say
watching a 21:9 movie on this phone with its Dolby
stuff, without letterboxing or weird camera cutouts, is great. But the truth is that most
of the video that I watch is not 21:9.

It’s stuff on YouTube, and so I still end up
having big black bars on the left or the right. Or, if I expand it full screen, I end up cutting off people's heads. Now, I do think this phone is pretty good from a build quality perspective. It's got Gorilla Glass and IP68. It's got some bezels,
but they're not too big, and it's just nice to hold. But, you know, of course
there's no headphone jack. But there's no getting around how it being this tall
makes it really awkward. It's so tall, it couldn't
fit in my pocket. I was sitting down, and it just slid right out of my pocket and clattered on the concrete, which is why there are dings on the edges of the
phone on our review unit, which is sad. The buttons are also awkward.

They're all on the right side of the phone and, I don’t know, the fingerprint sensor is separate from the power
button for some reason. And sometimes it gets a little dirty and you have to wipe it off
before it will actually work. I do like that there is
a dedicated camera button. But overall, when I'm
trying to use this phone, I just end up hitting the wrong button, like, all of the time.

On the back, there are
three 12-megapixel cameras. There's a regular, a 2X
telephoto, and a wide. Sony put some nice optical
image stabilization on the main lens, and you know what? Finally, Sony has made
a phone with a camera that's pretty good. It's not quite as good as a Pixel 3 or a OnePlus 7 Pro to my eyes, but it's finally respectable.

I do wish that the
telephoto was more than 2X, but the wide angle one, it's really fun. I kind of love it. But I don't love Sony's camera software. The wide angle thing makes you pick between prioritizing image
quality or distortion. The auto made doesn't do HDR by default, and there's just a bunch of other settings that just really look
and feel kind of silly. Anyway, let's get into the results of what I actually get
out of these lenses. I think that Sony
prefers leaving detail in, even though that also
leaves in a bunch of noise. It also doesn't do as
aggressive HDR as I would like unless you have to, you
know, manually turn it on.

But the thing that did surprise me is that even though there's
no dedicated night mode, sometimes it actually
really nails it anyway, even if it's incredibly dark. Now, you can shoot 4K, and
that's one of the reasons this phone exists. And so Sony also
included a Cinema Pro app that lets you really dial
in all these manual settings for shooting 4K video. Unfortunately, the 8-megapixel camera on the front is junk.

It's really not good. I don't know, man. If this phone didn't cost $950, I'd probably be a little
bit less nit-picky, but you know what? It does. So I am. In terms of software and performance, I actually don't have a ton of complaints. It's a fairly clean version of Android 9 with just a few bells and whistles. It has a Snapdragon 855 processor so it's fast, and there's 6GB of RAM, which is decent, but not stellar. I am a little bit grumpy that there's only one storage option:
128GB of storage. If you're going to want more, and especially if you're
going to want to shoot 4K, you're going to need to expand it. And you can because there's
a microSD card slot. Battery life is
average-ish for big phones. I'm getting over four hours of screen time, and it's lasting through a day, but there's only a 3,300mAh battery in here, and I kind of feel like that's not enough.

I would be happier with that if there was wireless
charging on this phone. But no, there's not. It does do fast charging, but one neat thing Sony does is it won't fast-charge when it knows that you’re charging overnight, which helps with the overall
life span of the battery, which means it should last longer, a year or two for now — at least in theory. Now, after all that, if you're still interested in this phone, you should also know
that Sony as a company has kind of been deemphasizing phones since it hasn't been
really successful with them in the past few years.

And that kind of makes sense, and I also think it makes sense for Sony to try something new and move into this niche
of making tall boys, like this guy right here. Now, of course, you can spend less money and get a better phone
like the OnePlus 7 Pro, but what you can't get is any other phone in this tall aspect ratio, so I like the idea of this form factor. I think that it should exist in
the world of Android phones. So I'm glad that Sony's
trying to make 21:9 happen. But I don't know that I'd
recommend this particular phone to anybody. If you really, really,
really love the tall screen or you really love what
Sony does with video, then maybe.

But there's no getting around the fact that this is an expensive phone. For $950, I expect more,
and you should, too. Hey, thank you for watching. Do you want a tall phone? Let me know in the comments below. Also, if you're wondering if
there are other tall phones, we did review the Xperia 10 last month. It's kind of the same idea but cheaper and also, it's really bad for a whole other set of reasons.

But if you want to see a
review of a good big phone, click here..

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Surface Duo first look: Microsoft’s foldable Android phone

– Remember Windows Phone
from way back when? Well Microsoft is kind
of getting back into making smartphones. This is Surface Duo, and it runs Android. Not Windows or Windows Phone. That's right. Microsoft is making a
Surface phone with Android. If that sounds surprising, it's because it really is. But we'll get back into the Android side in a minute. Duo is part of two new futuristic dual-screen devices that
Microsoft announced today. And they're coming in Holiday 2020. Surface Duo has two 5.6 inch displays that fold out into an
8.3 inch device overall. And it's just 4.8 millimeters thin. It folds like many two-in-one laptops thanks to a 360 degrees hinge. And it's designed to
get more done on the go. It looks tiny for this type of device, and it felt kind of like a Galaxy Note in my pocket. Now, I wasn't allowed to play around with the software on this device, but it looks and feels
like a tiny pocket tablet that's also a phone. The difference between this and any other Android phone, except maybe the Galaxy Fold, is visually obvious.

But Microsoft thinks this is part of a new category of devices that allow people to do a lot more with tablets and phones
than they do today. As part of this idea, Microsoft also announced a
Surface Neo device today. Which has two larger 9 inch displays. The Duo and the Neo share a very similar design, but they don't share a
common operating system. Neo, the larger dual-screen device, runs Windows 10 X, and has all your familiar
desktop and tablet apps. The reason this isn't
running Windows Phone is because Microsoft gave up on that operating system years ago, when it couldn't convince developers to create apps for it's devices. Now we sat down with Microsoft's Chief Product Officer, Panos Panay, on the Vergecast this week, to talk about why Microsoft
chose Android this time for the Surface Duo.

– [Panay] Well because, those are the apps you want. I don't know how to answer it differently for you. Because there's hundreds
of thousands of apps and you want them. Asati and I talked about it, it's about meeting our
customers where they are. And I don't think the, you know, the mobile application platform's going anywhere any time soon, you need the apps. – So you'll get the apps you'd expect from a phone inside
the dual-screen device, but how is this different from any other smartphone? I mean it obviously looks different. And the main idea is making use of these two displays in ways we're only starting to see other Android phone makers explore. You could run a game on one side, and a game pad on the other, or multi-task by dragging
and dropping content between apps. Microsoft hasn't thought
of everything you'd do with the Surface Duo just yet, but that's why it's announcing it now so developers can fill in the gaps.

They're really aiming to introduce a new form factor here, and a way for a device to
adjust itself on the go, no matter the task. We've seen foldable devices from Huawei and Samsung, but the Duo has two separate displays that are made of glass, rather than foldable plastic. Which given the issues
with Samsung's Galaxy Fold, that might be a good choice right now. Microsoft has been
working on this hardware for three years, and Panos Panay tells us that this device won't change much by the time it debuts late next year.

The real key question will be whether Android app developers create the apps and
experiences that really take advantage of this dual-screen device. And whether consumers
want this type of hardware in a phone form factor in the first place. That's why Microsoft also has its largest Surface Neo device running Windows. And it really feels like the company wants to offer a Surface at every shape and size. Microsoft also seems to be implying that the operating system really doesn't matter for
Surface devices anymore.

And it's willing to partner
with Google and others to offer what makes sense. So does that means that
Android is the future for Microsoft? – [Panay] (clears throat)
No no no no no no. You want to give customers what they want in the form factor that they're using. We've learned this, you know, the right operating system
on the wrong product or the other way around, pick your words, but what's the right operating system for the form factor? And in this case, in mobile devices, Android's
the obvious choice. But anything above that, Windows is everything.

Superior for me. – So, will the Surface
Duo and the Surface Neo combine in the future? Will there be a smartphone
that turns into a tablet, that then turns into a laptop, then you dock and turns into a real PC? We're years away from anything even getting close to that. But it opens up the questions about where this dual-screen and foldable hardware is going exactly. And they're really hard
questions to answer right now. Microsoft will now need to convince app developers and consumers that these dual-screen devices are truly the new device category that we've
all been waiting for.

Wherever things end up, it looks like Microsoft want to be ready at every point with Surface. You want a phone that's a little bit more than a phone that
has an extra display? Surface Duo. You want a tablet that
transforms into a laptop? Surface Neo or Surface Pro. Microsoft is covering
every hardware base here, and it's leaving it up to you to decide what device you actually need.

– [Panay] You know, I think like anything, look at the product you think is most interesting to you and where you think you can be more creative, that's what I would push. And I think this products gonna be there next year. Not in a hurry, you know, hang out. Take photos or do whatever it is you do on your phone today
for a little bit longer and then, see if we can convince you that you can be more
creative on this product. – It's been a crazy day of Surface devices and there's a bunch of hands-on videos you should check out
on our YouTube channel.

Be sure to also definitely
check out the Vergecast, 'cause it has the full
interview with Panos Panay, and you don't wanna miss it..

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