(techno music) – Here it is. RED has spent the last year hyping this. The HYDROGEN One smart phone with the holographic display. It looks like no other phone on the market. Comes from one of the most esteemed names in digital cameras. And has a screen unlike any other phone selling today. It it unique, it is expensive. And it is a complete mess. So I've been pretty excited for this phone.
RED announced it more than a year ago and it's been talking about this holographic display since then. But the phone kept getting delayed and pushed back and pretty much no one's been able to see it. They've shown it to a handful of people. But no one's been able to film the screen and so we've kinda just had to work off of what people were describing it as. And so, I've been here imagining that a holographic screen is kinda gonna float above the display and have this very cool, you know, hologram. But, that's not what this is at all. – Oh my God. (laughing) – What? – This is very nauseating. – My question is why? – Maybe the further you hold it, uhhhhh. – Ahhh. – This is kind of hurting my eyes.
I can't imagine using this every day. – My eye are tearing watching this. – There's really no elegant way to say this. The screen is just bad. Like really bad. But unfortunately it doesn't show up on video very well. So I'm gonna do my best to describe it to you. We also made this graphic to try and help. You know those lunch boxes or post cards with a lenticular screen that kinda changes as you rotate it side to side? That's basically what this is. If you've ever seen a Nintendo 3DS, it's pretty much the same thing. I actually think the 3DS is better than this. Most of the time you're using the phone nothing is quote unquote holographic. Everything is flat, 2D, just normal when you're on the main interface, browsing the web, using your regular apps or whatever. RED has a separate app store that includes a very small number of game and movies that work in this holographic format.
For whatever reason, RED calls it 4V or 4-View, instead of 3D. Nothing ever pops out at you when you're seeing a 4-View image or game. But when you're in those apps you can see a little bit of depth into the screen. But the depth you see isn't that convincing. I wasn't even sure I was seeing it half the time.
And it works really unevenly. Most things are really bad and look kinda like flat, gimmicky cutouts. Others, especially video where the depth is much more natural, actually have some potential. But the key thing to know is that it just looks bad when the holographic mode comes on. The screen looks really blurry, like the whole thing is smudged up and nothing is sharp and clear. I think that's because there's an actual hardware layer in here that's changing how many of the pixels you can see. I played a few games this way and I didn't feel like it added much to the experience. I think the 4V made the games worse too. Just look at how poorly the Subway Surfers ripoff staring Paddington works. It gets choppy all the time. The other big deal here is the cameras.
There are dual 12 megapixel sensors on the back and dual 8 megapixel sensors on the front. And both sides can be used for capturing 4V photos and videos. Before I get into that I want to say that as regular 2D cameras they're actually pretty good in a lot of cases. Now you're not exactly getting RED color science here. RED says there's just not the horsepower. And you're not using a RED sensor either. I think it's probably the same Samsung or Sony stuff that everyone else is using. The colors look rich and natural, though. There's style without them being stylized. But it can't match the Pixel when it comes to dynamic range. I often found that the HYDROGEN One would blow out highlights that the Pixel could clearly capture. It also struggles in low light and the photos often weren't very sharp either.
The real highlight here is supposed to be 4V mode where you can capture 3D photos and videos. The photos are pretty skippable. They don't capture a lot of depth. And eventually I started making everyone pose in these cheesy ways once I realized that made it look the best. I was surprised, though, the video is, there's something to it. I can actually see the depth a bit.
It a much subtler effect and it's kind of cool. It's still a pain to watch. It's smudgy and the effect tends to flicker in and out with a lot of artifacts. Some people said it made them dizzy. But when it works, you can kind of understand what RED was thinking. Unfortunately you can't really share it with anybody. Even if you do get really into shooting 4V, they won't be able to see it unless they have another RED phone.
It just looks like 2D to the rest of the world. RED does include an app called Holopix which is sort of their own social network. It's supposed to be like Instagram for RED phone owners who shoot 4V. But I haven't actually been able to test it. Every time I try to log into the app it just crashes when I press the sign in button. The funny thing is, RED isn't even the first company to try this. If you remember back in 2011, HTC actually did this with the EVO 3D. It did the same thing. There was a dual camera on the back for capturing 3D photos and it had the same kinda screen, where you could tilt it and view it in 3D. Now in fairness to RED it does look better on the HYDROGEN One. It's a little bit clearer and the photos and videos do turn out better. But the tech clearly has not developed a lot in the time since and it kinda says a lot that RED hasn't meaningfully improved the experience since 2011.
So now I want to talk about the rest of the phone. 'Cause there is a lot of phone here. I actually dropped it and injured somebody with it. But props to it for at least trying something different here. I don't really like the design, but there's a lot going on and it looks unlike anything else. There are a bunch of textures on the back. There are the grips for your fingers on the side that don't strictly make it easier to hold but are interesting. I also like that there's a shutter button on the top. Unfortunately its less interesting on the inside. That's because it was supposed to come out last year so it's running on a Snapdragon 835 whereas the rest of this years flagship phones all have the Snapdragon 845.
There's one other big feature on this phone that's supposed to make it unique. And that's these accessory pins on the back. They're supposed to let you connect all kinds of interesting things. The biggest being a full on RED camera sensor which you'll be able to attach real lenses to. But, that doesn't exist yet. There's nothing you can add onto the phone today. And given that the phone was already a year delayed, who knows when these accessories will actually ship. RED hasn't even offered any details on the sensor's capabilities let alone its price. And so ultimately all the big things that RED set out to do here, all the ways it wanted to stand out, they just don't hold up.
And since it's not particularly great at the basics, and costs an incredible $1300, it's just impossible to recommend. I really wish it didn't go this way. I think it great that someone is trying something different when it comes to mobile phones. And the concept of a RED camera in your pocket? That's really exciting. But it's not what we got. Right now this tech just isn't ready and you probably should pay $1300 to beta test it. (electronic swooshing) Hey, what's up, we're filming on an EVO 3D right now because we can't actually export 3D from the RED phone. If you like this video, be sure to like and subscribe.
Please let me know in the comments what you actually wanted to see from this phone..
[Music] hey what's up mkbhd here so you remember the original surface duo the dual screen foldable android device from microsoft had a lot of potential and a lot of hype behind it we were hoping it would be great and then it just wasn't really that good at all disappointingly it had pretty weak performance the software was very buggy and uh the camera was trash but like the one nice thing about it was it had really nice sleek thin hardware and a great hinge but there was a lot to fix but now one year later we have the sequel the shiny new dark colored sequel the answer to microsoft's nightmares the surface duo 2. sweet so this isn't the full review i haven't had it for very long but i have some initial impressions on it which are that i think that this device and all microsoft has done to it has revealed that this idea may not really have a great feature it may be fundamentally flawed in the way it's used like microsoft went through and valiantly improved a ton of stuff about this especially versus the original they found a lot of flaws they made them all objectively better and yet some of that stuff still also made it worse see pretty much all the changes microsoft has made are objectively better than the last one so there's a bunch of stuff here they have all new high-end specs inside they've made the displays bigger and faster with thinner bezels and they added a set of real cameras on the back and there is much better software implementation to tie it all together but yet this surface duo has a completely new set of problems that this surface duo didn't have but then the cherry on top is this new one is now uh 14.99 1499 that's actually more expensive than the first one which started at 13.99 before it plummeted the whole year it was out i think it was eventually like 900 off or something like that so you might think wow that's a bold move making an even more expensive surface even when the first one flopped so hard but this was also clearly gonna cost more to make so you might remember when the first surface duo came out it had one-year-old slightly out-of-date specs this one's launching with the highest end chip it's a snapdragon triple eight is eight gigs of ram and up to half a terabyte of storage and they've done a lot with this new display here so first of all it's slightly bigger it's 8.3 inches corner to corner now with nearly the same size footprint because the bezels are smaller all the way around especially that top bezel no more flash needed since the main camera system is on the back now and this display is also now brighter up to 800 nits and it is higher fresh rate now it's a 90 hertz panel weirdly there is no option to change refresh rate anywhere in the display settings like you can't knock it down to 60hz if you want to but whatever everything is smoother especially while scrolling but the the main new thing here with this display is it curves over the edges in the middle near the hinge from both sides so it kind of gives this sort of subtle waterfall look and the dual screens now kind of have this effect of looking closer together almost like it's one giant folding screen and this definitely encourages you to span apps across both displays more often and yet treat it like one big display the only problem with that is when you do lots of those important pixels in the middle of the screen are now just spilling over that edge into being unreadable but also some are completely missing like you can't read whatever's supposed to be in those middle few pixels so any pictures or any text that are supposed to be in the middle of the screen are now just gone which is beyond annoying it's a it's a bit of a problem for any sort of reading and you can forget about spanning games horizontally imagine trying to aim something with the crosshairs missing now it's the surface duo so horizontal gaming isn't really a huge thing this is actually a great form factor for split gaming like this emulator games all that sort of stuff split screen top bottom gaming and that's actually one of the biggest i've had a little bit of time to play with this game passes on this device and it's a lot of fun but yeah the missing text in the middle of the screen uh not great but then the other big change to the hardware as you've already seen is it has real cameras on the back now it's got a whole triple camera system a 12 megapixel primary plus a 2x telephoto and a 16 megapixel ultra wide all stacked into this camera bump that has matte rails all the way around the outsides there's a flash next to it there's hdr portrait mode optical zoom like these cameras they're not amazing but they are way more capable than before so objectively if we just ignore the design for a second that's better like they've put better cameras on this phone device but you know obviously microsoft never really wanted to bolt cameras to the back and ruin their like perfectly clean sleek thin design that's why they didn't do it with the first one and they got the great hardware but then that meant to take pictures of stuff you'd have to flip it open and use the selfie camera like that and then this was just a webcam it was pretty bad so this time yeah there's a set of real cameras on the back they've caved and done it and i can confirm they're all better than the webcam was so having some optical zoom having the ability to take decent videos that's all nice i mean it's a 2x telephoto which isn't that great but it's something but now that they've made this change which a lot of people including me were wondering if they would do it or not it turns out that this is now a bit more annoying to use so obviously with this mesa sticking out the back you're now unable to fully open the surface duo to flat anymore so anytime you use it with one hand fold it back it's got to be slightly open like this just a few millimeters short of going flat which is enough to be easy to slip your finger in and like close it quickly but it is not as comfortable to use it for a while and hold it like this with one hand now i do admire that they've shaped this camera bump to match the exact angle that the back screen folds over and touches it so that it lays flush just a neat little little couple degree adjustment there it's nice it feels like there's also magnets in here to hold it against that camera bump but now as you've noticed that's covering the cameras which means anytime you want to take photos you have to swivel it down because closing it up covers the camera so now you have to have it open fully like this every time you take pictures i don't know maybe you do the viewfinder open at the top and then the photos populating at the bottom and that's cool enough when it works maybe that's more fun for some people for taking pictures but overall yeah that's it's physically less convenient especially when you just want to snap a quick photo real quick so you can see why this idea even though it's a really cool idea feels broken like microsoft found ways to make this objectively better especially on paper than the last one but yet it got more annoying it got worse to use and i think fundamentally i was thinking about all the different ways that they could maybe save this maybe they can fix this in some way maybe making it thicker maybe you know filling it in so that the camera bump isn't a bump what are the things that they could do i couldn't come up with any because i feel like the thing that is flawed about this is the lack of any outside display just this passport design like of course there's a ton of software optimization that's gone into making this ui work with two screens and that's super cool maybe making it a little bit thicker would give you some more battery to power these two screens for longer but that wouldn't really solve anything you know i thought a lot about the aspect ratio about the layout of everything but even the layouts better here too now the power button and fingerprint reader are combined into one believe it or not it wasn't on the first one and i really like the matte black rails and this new darker color it just feels much more professional it feels more my type to be honest but even in the software the software was buggy last time on the surface duo and it is buggy again this time too mainly i've been having touch responsiveness issues where it really doesn't like when i start a swipe action from off the display like if i swipe up from the bezel it constantly doesn't respond when i do that plus there's all kinds of missed button presses and momentary complete lapses of all responsiveness it's still really bad for a device of this price and you know i'd say i hope they can fix it with some software but you know there's been an issue for a full year now so i'm not exactly optimistic but the fundamental flaw is like there's no outside screen which means there's no usability when it's closed you have to open it to do anything so we've seen uh you know even the moto razer and samsung z flip 3 have decently usable outside screens and then of course the fold 3 just has a whole smartphone ui basically on the outside you can use it a whole bunch without ever even opening it now there's a lot of foldables that have all these different ways of using it without opening it but with this you have to open it and then unlock it and use it every time and it sounds like such a small thing just sounds i feel like i'm just like complaining and it seems really petty but when you actually use it it becomes a pretty big deal and this also means anytime you fully open it and fold it over flat you have just straight display glass now on the outside so if you were to put it in your pocket like this or put it down on a table like this that makes the glass pretty vulnerable to scratches and it's also just the the extra layer of having to open it unfold it unlock the phone and then get started with everything even for like the quickest little thing if you just want to snap a quick picture or you just take it out your pocket for a quick phone call every time that's a huge deal to me now you can view some quick things like the time and check your notifications by actually checking that curved over part of the display in the middle of the phone while it's closed which is more than nothing it is actually super cool that it curves over so much that you can actually see it and read it in there but you don't really interact with it at all and that's that's the absolute minimum in terms of functionality and also this is one just one more thing but this is minor if you try to place it down on a desk like this it works but with the camera bump now you cannot place it down on a desk on the other side or it's annoying i mean you can but it's very wobbly and annoying so it felt like an ambidextrous device before now you always have to remember to get it right so here's my question to you we've seen companies go back on things right like we just we just with apple saw them release the new macbook pro that we're all loving because they went back on a ton of the stuff that we've hated about the last couple years of macbook pros and now we're all over it again and so i wonder if there should be something considered with the surface duo like what do you think should microsoft give up on the outside screen form factor or should they do an outside screen or should surface do i would just stay the way it is for the people who like it the way it is and who will pay that price to use this as it exists today i don't know i'm curious let me know in your thoughts below in the comments section i'm very curious if anyone has any other ideas about surface duo but that's pretty much it anyway stay tuned to the next video where we have something that i'm a lot more excited about for sure much more positive video it's techtober there's a lot coming thanks for watching catch you guys the next one peace
[MUSIC] >> Hello, everyone. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening wherever you may be in the world. Thank you so much for joining us today. Just a couple of months ago, we were here on this stage together with you sharing the new vision for Windows 11 and the response has been incredible. Thank you. I mean, I have to say, the Windows Insiders, Devs, everyone, the fans hosting Windows 11, it has been incredible. It's inspiring to all of us.
Are you kidding me? I mean, it really is something that drives us. Now, Windows is a driving force for innovation. It's an enduring platform for each one of us to create. It's home for billions to do their jobs, live their dreams, connect with the people they love. Windows 11 gives you a place that feels like home. It's an area of calm, security, openness, and it's designed to be centered around you. When you use it, you'll feel that. You really will. But to bring it to life, to use it, you have to put it in your hands, and really, that's all about the hardware. It's about the hardware completing that magical experience. Now, you've seen, and hopefully you've seen some amazing Windows 11 devices. From ASUS, HP, Lenovo, and more coming soon from partners like Acer, and Dell, and Samsung. Each are critical. Each one of them critical to bringing Windows 11 to life and there are some amazing innovation in these products. It's just awesome.
Now, today, we're going to show you innovation across the Surface product line. Now from the beginning, Surface has always been a stage for software and hardware to come together. For the last 10 years, it's been a force for revolution in this industry, creating products that push the boundaries of what's possible. With Surface and Windows, businesses have changed the way they work.
People have moved the world forward with their ideas, with their inventions. Poetry has been written, games created, students have learned, teachers have taught. People have connected across countries, time zones, from their homes, from their offices. For us, for me, isn't that what it's all about? And it comes from how you feel when you use our devices. When the technology disappears into the background, helping you get into your flow, helping you get to that moment where your inspiration strikes, where you can just create. And there shouldn't be, and there's nothing between you and your ideas. We can see that when your idea flows from your mind through your heart, out your hands. When your creation comes out on that Canvas. We talk about products being a reflection of the people who make them and use them. In turn, what inspires me is seeing how you change the world with what you create. It's why every single Surface is built to uniquely adapt to each one of us. It's why every single detail matters. From the tiniest hinge to every pixel you will see on the display, to every piece of the experience that flows across Windows 11.
All of it. Every part of it is designed to bring your creations, your learnings, your music, your visions to life through an elegant dance of the hardware and software coming together. And today, we're going to challenge convention yet again. Introducing you to eight new devices and accessories that are all built hand-in-hand with Windows 11. Lighting up amazing experiences across Microsoft 365, Edge, Teams, Game Pass, all your favorite apps. I can't tell you how pumped I am for you to see these devices, for you to get your hands on them. Seriously, they really, they light the room up. We have a new Surface Go for families, front-line workers, and for amazing entertainment. We have a transformed Surface Pro lineup. It brings you incredible power and modern design and the details throughout this product are surreal, resulting in a product that feels magical.
It's got to be one of my favorite Surfaces ever made. We'll also show you what's next for our dual-screen devices and apps with Surface Duo 2, critical for a changing world as we continue to see people every single day needing to be more productive on their mobile devices. Sometimes it's the smallest details that can have the biggest impact. You're going to see this with our brand new Surface adaptive kit and our Oceans Plastic Mouse.
In fact, every product you'll see today was designed by a team thinking and focusing on both accessibility and sustainability to help all of us collectively rise to the challenge of building an inclusive and accessible future for all of us, for everyone. We crafted each product to adjust to the way you work, learn, and play because Surface itself is original by design. It is built for you. It's built for everyone. And actually, it's built for anyone who has the future in mind. Now, to begin this journey today, I want to introduce you to Peter Kyriacou. He is here to tell you about the innovations in our two-in-one line.
If you stick around until the end, I'll have one more pretty cool product probably to share with you. [MUSIC] >> I'm here in our design studio on campus. In this room, we built the first generation of Surface Pro, designed for Windows with touch. Today, nine years later, we're pushing the boundaries again. I'd like to introduce the ultimate two-in-one, Surface Pro 8.
[MUSIC] This is Surface Pro 8. Purpose-built for Windows 11. This device combines a powerful laptop with the flexibility of a tablet and every angle in between. We're bringing the best of our Surface Pro heritage to life in a new design built on the Intel Evo Platform, with quad-core 11 Gen Intel processing, and an innovative thermal design. It keeps the device thin, light, and productive, delivering over 43 percent more compute power and 75 percent faster graphics than Surface Pro 7. We're bringing up to 32 gigs of RAM and high-speed Thunderbolt 4 connectivity. All this with 16 hours of battery life. This makes Surface Pro 8 the most powerful 2-in-1 in the market. This innovation matters. It keeps you productive. It keeps you connected. With the iconic full range kickstand and detachable keyboard, studio microphones, and a front-facing camera, not on the side, but centered right where it should be.
It lets you pick just the right angle to look and sound your best when you're on a Teams call or a Zoom call. Dolby Atmos creates an immersive sound that's nothing like you've heard from a 2-in-1 before. Now, I want to talk to you about this beautiful high resolution 13 inch PixelSense display. The super thin bezels and over 5.5 million pixels, Dolby Vision, 120 Hertz refresh rate, and for the first time we're bringing adaptive color technology, which naturally adjust to the color temperature, and lighting of your environment. And it really shines with Cloud gaming on Xbox Game Pass Ultimate. Just grab your controller or use the touch controls and play Psychonauts 2 and over 100 console games from anywhere. Now, it's not just about viewing and gaming, but the screen is also about great pen and touch.
We're excited to announce Surface Slim Pen 2. Magnetic storage and charging, your pen is always with you and it's always ready when you have that instant thought or a moment of inspiration. When you pick up your pen, Windows 11 brings up a customizable pen menu that gets you inking and into your flow quickly. Another big part of our product development includes custom silicon. A processor we call Microsoft G6. When your pen hits the canvas, the G6 processor and Windows 11 come to life. For the first time with digital ink, there's tiny mechanical vibrations that mimic the feel of pen on paper, sending tactile signals through the touch receptors in your fingertips. It's a subtle interaction that makes a huge difference. With our sharper pen tip, zero pressure force, and ultra low latency, Surface Slim Pen 2 and Pro 8 bring your exceptional accuracy, smoother flow, and greater control. Ok, you can tell I really love this pen and Surface Pro 8. I think the experiences are incredible. Now, I want to introduce you to an expert creator. Alexandria, thanks for being here. >> Thanks, Pete. As an illustrator, I'm honestly loving the new Pro and Pen.
I spend a lot of time outdoors painting with traditional tools, mostly watercolor, pastel. But it's a lot of setup. So I've always wanted a portable digital device that would allow me to start paintings on the go, but then take them back into the studio to finalize them. The Pro is super lightweight and portable. It feels like a sketch book or a journal that I would normally carry with me. I also love how the pen is always there, charged and ready, so I won't lose it. Here is a nature journal that I started working on the other day in Adobe Fresco. The pen is smooth and accurate, there is no delays or lag, and the sharp tip feels really precise and responsive. It's also, honestly, the most comfortable digital pen that I've used. The tactile signals are such a nice addition. I didn't even realize that when I use a paint brush on paper, I actually get some feedback from the brush itself.
That's how this feels. Its natural, subtle, and it helps me connect with the painting like I would with a brush on paper. When I'm not outdoors, I'm in studio creating high-resolution images for children's books and games that sometimes have a ton of layers. So I need powerful imaging software like Adobe Photoshop or Blender. This is the first portable device that I've used that can handle my professional workflow.
It still runs like a dream when I'm stressed testing images at 300 DPI with hundreds of layers. The keyboard allows me to use all the key binds that I've grown to rely on as a professional artist. I can take this from a casual tablet to a portable workstation in seconds. The Surface Pro 8 and the Surface Slim Pen 2 save me time and help me stay in my creative flow, and I'm excited to keep building them into my process. >> Thanks, Alexandria. The partnership between Microsoft and Adobe brings productivity and creativity together, creating these truly inspiring scenarios. We continue to push experiences on pen to help people be more creative and also bring new ways of communicating, being more thoughtful, more engaged. The benefits of writing with pen are incredible, from boosting memory to improving mental and physical health. Surface Pro 8 is packed full of great features from the display to the keyboard, the performance and the power of the pen. This is the most powerful Pro we've ever built. For those of you who love Pro X, developers have been optimizing the apps specifically for ARM.
Sixty four bit emulation is built in, so the apps you need are ready for you. Now, the next product I want to talk to you about is our most portable 2-in-1. I want to introduce you to Surface Go 3. This is our fastest, most capable Go yet. Go 3 brings all the features that matter in a 2-in-1. Now, with 10 Gen Intel processing, Surface Go is 60 percent faster than before. The best part, Windows 11 makes the experience great for everyone from frontline workers to families.
To tell you more, here is David. >> For the past eight years, I've lived and worked here from my home in Minnesota. From here, my family and I have fun, play games, watch shows, and plan our adventures together. Today, I want to talk to you about how Surface Go and Windows 11 light up together and some of the ways my family has been using it. Windows 11 makes it easy for my nine-year-old to do what he wants to do. My family has their own account with their apps, settings, and data. With Windows Hello, he can sign in instantly and securely. Launching apps is effortless with touch and it's easy for him to put them where he wants them with the Snap feature. Windows 11 adapts to how he wants to use it. He can get everything set up just the way he likes it and switch back and forth with ease.
With Cloud gaming, he can also play his favorite Xbox Game Pass games. My seven-year-old loves catching up with her cousins that live in Ireland. With Microsoft Teams Chat built into Windows 11, in one touch, she can connect with them on a video call. >> How are you? >> When she's doing school projects, Surface Go helps her do her best work. She loves nature and she's learning how plants make oxygen for the planet. Surface Pen lets her creativity shine.
Sometimes, though, it can get busy at home and it can be hard to be a good parent, especially when my wife and I are both in meetings and the kids are around during the day. With Windows 11 Family Safety Limits, the kids have the freedom to explore online while I have peace of mind. I love this Family Safety widget. I can swipe in and see if it's time for the kids to switch it up and have them play outside. Microsoft Edge has this great new feature we've been using called Kids Mode. The kids can browse a bunch of awesome sites in a kid-friendly environment with built-in guardrails. When it's time to relax, we grab Surface Go to stream our favorite movies together, like Luca in the Disney Plus app.
The 10.5 inch display on Surface Go is tuned for diagonal viewing, which is key when we're watching together. With Dolby Audio, it sounds great too. I do what I can to keep my kids safe, happy, and healthy. Part of that means thinking about their future on the planet. Microsoft's commitments to sustainability make me proud to be part of the team that's investing in a better future for them. Our vision isn't achieved through the launch of a single feature or product, but every step matters, which is why, on behalf of the team, I'm delighted to announce the Microsoft Ocean Plastic Mouse.
The shell of the mouse is made up of 20 percent recycled ocean plastic. The box is 100 percent recyclable and we make it easy to ship back an old mouse for recycling through our mail back program. I look for any opportunity I can to talk to my kids about ways to protect the planet and this product helps start that conversation. Thanks David. With Windows 11 and this new line up, everything you love about the 2-in-1 family just got better. In addition to our desire to build great products, we're also focused on how we build them. With sustainable practices and materials like those you saw in the Ocean Plastic Mouse. We're focused on who we build them for, making sure our products are inclusive by design. To talk to you more about this, I'd like to introduce you to our fantastic research team leader, Kris. >> Our mission at Microsoft is to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more. It's this mission, that drives our dedication to inclusive design.
As we build products, there is a belief that drives us. When we don't intentionally include, we unintentionally exclude. By working to try to understand the specific lived experiences of people with disabilities, we make better products. Products that are accessible by design. Products like the Xbox Adaptive Controller, which empowers gamers with limited mobility to play and connect with other gamers across the globe. But every day we're striving to learn more as we work closely and partner with people with disabilities. Today, we are excited to take the next step on that journey. Now, I want to welcome my friend and colleague, Dave Dame, to tell you more about how accessible technology has empowered him in his life. >> I was born with cerebral palsy and I use a power wheelchair. When I was born in 1971, my parents were told Dave may not live past the age of 12, Dave may never be able speak clearly if at all.
Even if he does, don't expect much because there's not much that someone with Dave's condition can do to have a full life. They actually advised my parents to put me in an institution. Luckily, my parents chose a different path. When I was younger, I was constantly asking myself, what do I want to be when I grew up? This year, when I turned 50, I started thinking, how do I want to leave the world when I'm no longer here? I decided to pivot my career and join Microsoft on their journey to enable people like me to leverage technology, to have their best lives, hopefully with a lot less struggle than I had to endure.
I want to reflect to people the struggle with the things that non-disabled people have the privilege to take for granted. Like opening a device, setting up their screens, to create and be productive while not compromising the esthetics in their devices, accessories, or software. It's not simply about creating accessible technology, it's about what the person can achieve and experience because of that technology. >> Hi, hello how are you? >> Hey. Great to see you. >> I am excited to see you. We're here to talk about the Surface adaptive kit. >> It's been quite a journey for the team. >> Not just the internal teams, but our partners and occupational therapists who we've worked with to really try to empower their patients and them to find more effective technology solutions. >> Right. Because one of the goals of occupational therapists is really to help their patients rediscover their independence and using technology or assistive technology. >> We have seen some creative solutions. Everything from applying glue dots to the key set so someone who is blind can easily locate keys to our kickstand, having a hole drilled in it so someone could apply a lanyard just to open it up.
>> Believe it or not, I actually used to use a fork to leverage to open up my laptop screen. >> This is where we saw a real opportunity to help. >> Well, let's quit talking about it. Let's show it. >> Let's do it. >> What I love about this is even the packaging is inclusive. What I mean is I get to experience unboxing a new product. I'm able to open it up. I can use the lid that instantly pulls all the cards out right away. Here you go Kris. >> Thank you, Dave. You can apply these stickers to your keyboard. It's raised so you can feel it, but also it's high contrast. >> The different shapes make them very distinguishable from one another. >> Yeah. Taking you down to the keycap labels. The keycap labels are really designed for someone who's blind.
They fit perfectly on the surface keyboards. The port labels are used for taking a label and applying it to a cable and then applying the corresponding port tab onto the device, and it just fit seamlessly into the device. Then this tab is a lanyard tab. We've attached it to the kickstand so that this can be easily pulled out with the lanyard and you're ready to go.
>> That's much more elegant than using a fork. >> Exactly. >> It really allows people to easily, quickly modify their device. They're spending more time using the device and less time trying to set it up. What I like about this is it allows me to have a product I can use and be proud of. >> That was the intention when we saw this as a real opportunity to provide solutions that didn't feel like people were being othered. >> Exactly because we're all going to be disabled someday, just some of us beat you it. When you're designing for products for someone like me today, we're actually building for our future selves.
We're all going to lose our ability at some point. None of us can predict when that will happen. But when it does, I'm really glad that we're going to have products and accessories that people can use whenever and whatever they might need. >> Now, inclusive design is critical to our mission. It's critical to our belief. Products are to reflect the people that make them and the people who use them. Creating accessible products with and for people with disabilities, it starts with creating for one and extending to many. Now, we're going to continue to push ourselves to reflect the more than one billion people with disabilities in the world with every single product we make. Now, we've already seen a lot today and we have a couple more awesome products to show you. This next one, one of my favorites, it's a mobile device, the pinnacle of productivity, designed to be the perfect companion to your Windows 11 PC. I can't wait for you to see it. Shilpa is here to introduce it to you. Enjoy. >> When we launched the first Surface Duo last year, it was an introduction to an entirely new category for mobile productivity.
Today, we are incredibly excited to introduce you to the next generation of Surface Duo for your life, your work, and your Surface. [MUSIC] Hello [MUSIC] >> This is Surface Duo 2, mobile productivity powered by two screens with virtually unlimited postures. Having access to two things side-by-side helps me do so much more. It's just like working on my Windows PC, but with the flexibility of taking my phone wherever I go. We built this phone for people who love power, speed, and beauty. >> Our team of incredible product makers at Surface obsess over every aspect of hardware and software design and continue to push the boundaries of what is possible. That's exactly what we've done with Surface Duo 2. Our team of engineers have partnered closely with Qualcomm to build an incredibly fast and powerful dual-screen device, all of this in a product that has been meticulously crafted to become the world's thinnest 5G device. We've enclosed all of this technology in beautifully nanocoated 3D glass, and it's available in both glacier and obsidian tones. When you unfold it, you'll find two beautiful PixelSense fusion displays that expand to an even larger 8.3-inch display, with high refresh rate of 90 hertz, perfectly synchronized across both displays.
It's generating nearly half a billion pixels per second. This makes browsing, scrolling, and writing feel exceptionally smooth. The curved displays bring the two sides even closer together, connected by the most precise and reliable hinge mechanism we've ever engineered at Surface. With the toughest glass from Corning, protecting the displays, you can write and draw on your Surface Duo with confidence. To make sure that your surface slim pen is always with you and charged, we're introducing Microsoft Surface Duo 2 pen cover. To help you stay in your moment and not worry about missing anything important, we've designed Surface Duo glance bar. You can glance to simply check time without opening your Duo, and the color-coded badges will show you how many calls and messages you've received, including Teams chat.
Beautiful and subtle light glows show you incoming calls, incoming messages, and even show you how much battery you have left. We've engineered truly exceptional cameras with dual optical image stabilization. Our intelligent software algorithms and multiframe processing will remove noise and bring out natural textures and colors. The wide-angle camera utilizes every pixel in the sensor for faster, more accurate auto-focus. To make the auto-focus performance even more consistent and faster in challenging low light conditions, we've also added a time-of-flight sensor. The ultra-wide camera uses intelligent lens distortion correction to help you capture the most natural pictures. You will love how easy it is to capture dramatic, low-angle shots with the unique hinge-on duo. The telephoto camera has a focal length that professional photographers use to capture beautiful portraits and our custom-built camera app will launch across both displays, giving you an instant preview of the shot that you just took so that your next shot is even better. We placed all editing controls on the left screen so that you can see the changes to the photo without covering it up.
You can quickly crop, make some adjustments, press and hold to see if you like the changes, and apply filters. You can write a personal note and send it to your teammates by dragging it right into your Teams chat. The pictures and videos that you can capture on Duo 2 are truly stunning, as are the range of dual-screen experiences that only come to life on Surface Duo 2. >> The experience on the Surface Duo 2 is smooth, fast, and responsive. I can quickly swipe to access my Microsoft feed, where I can see my most recently used documents, my tasks, my meetings, and my news all in one view.
I can also join my Teams meeting with a single tap. Now, I like to span my Teams app, which allows me to see both the video of the attendees and the content being presented. I can use my pen to contribute to our shared whiteboard session as well. I spend a lot of my time in email and now I can set Duo to auto-span Outlook. I can take advantage of both these screens on my phone to triage my email faster. For all r gamers out there, Game Pass delivers an amazing experience on Surface Duo 2. We've got more than 50 games with touch controls, and more coming all the time. Thanks to 5G and high refresh rate fusion displays, you can effortlessly stream Xbox games from the Cloud or your own Xbox console right here on your Surface Duo 2.
In partnership with Gameloft, we are today announcing three standalone games which are completely optimized for Surface Duo; Asphalt Legends 9, Modern Combat 5, and Dungeon Hunter 5. My Surface Duo 2 enables me to access all my phone content right on my Windows PC. The newly redesigned, Your Phone app, puts my Surface Duo notifications front and center. I can use all my Android apps from my phone directly on my PC. I can multitask, I can open different phone apps each in their own window, and I can also pin my favorite apps to my taskbar for easy access. It's easier than ever to move content between my devices. I can copy paste content from my phone in to My Apps on Windows 11. It's a seamless way for me to stay productive between both my devices.
Surface Duo 2 is for the creator in each of us, and we can't wait to see how you make it your own. Thank you. >> Duo 2 is awesome. It is awesome. But there is still one last product I want to show you, and it's the most powerful Surface we've ever made. We made it for Windows 11, we made it for creators, we made it for this hybrid world. In essence, we made it for you. Take a look. [MUSIC] I hope you love that video.
It brings me back to the original studio, and it really just starts to show you this incredible, incredible product. With Surface Laptop Studio, we built on the heritage of both Surface Book and Surface Studio, bringing you the power of a desktop, but also that portability needed in a laptop, then the creativity of a studio, all in one. This is a product you put on your desk, you pull it towards you, and it starts to transform for creatives, professionals, it transforms for developers, gamers, video editors, and that performance, the power, everything you can take out of this device. We are in a time right now where we need to be able to move seamlessly from home to work, from office to office, and everywhere in between.
It really is incredibly simple to take your Surface Laptop Studio with you and then let it adapt to you, let it work with you, take the power of it, take the simplicity of it, take it in any form, and really what you can get done, what you can create, it's quite immense. It's also gorgeous, which to me, the details they really come to life. When you open this product, it's just better if I'm showing you. I got to show you the product, Chase can you? You always said you can move with me. How about you move with me? I love this stage, but let me just grab a device. Brittany, do you mind if I use your Surface? >> Okay.
>> I just want to show the audience. Then Bob, can I use your table? >> You can use it. >> I want somehow to step down here. Is the lighting okay if I come down here? Should I use this camera, Paul? >> Camera B. >> Camera B. By the way, it's awesome back here and it's so different than being on the stage. It's so interesting. This camera here? Take a look at the product. There's a couple of things to think about, the hardware, Windows 11, all of it centers around you. When you get in, it's unbelievably fast, instant on, Windows Hello 2.0 just logs you in 14.4 inch PixelSense display. It acts as a 15-inch monitor to your eyes, and to your work, but it feels portable like a 13-inch device. You get both worlds of just what you need. You look at it as a laptop. This is where it starts, it is a laptop, so it has to type incredibly well, and I think this is the best keyboard I've put my hands on. It sounds amazing, it feels amazing, the sound matters, then the track pad itself is so precise, it is our first haptic track pad.
Now, I'm going to show you stage mode, but look how easy it is. Like anything, when you pull it towards you, anything you love, you pull towards you, it's emotional. I pull this product towards me and I get excited, I love it. I'm in stage mode here. This is a mode where you can now watch a movie, play a game, get on a call, and then so quickly and so smooth, you just fold it down. I wonder if we can get a shot from up top, if we can just take a look at it. When you're in studio mode, there is so much that can happen here. This is when you want to be creative, but look, the pen is underneath, I'll pull it out. It's charging, never gets lost, always available. I open whiteboard. You can see how fast it is.
When I draw, I can feel the haptic feedback. It feels like I'm drawing on paper, and I can get to that precision that I want, then ultimately I can create, and then at anytime like a normal pen and paper, I can erase and get through it. I think this itself brings you into the product in different ways. Then it clicks in, then pen goes underneath, you basically bring it back up from studio mode into laptop mode, and you're back into a form that you're so familiar with every day. Thank you for letting me use it. >> I absolutely love how versatile this device is and how versatile it can be. I have to tell you this product is a powerhouse. It's the combination of desktop level CPU of Intel's 11 Gen Quad-core processor, and NVIDIA RTX 3050 Ti GPU. They come together giving you power needed for whatever you want to create. It's a laptop. How amazing is that? Laptops are so essential today. They're essential to how we work, how we play, how we create, and most importantly, how we connect with each other.
Whether that's on Teams, Zoom, WhatsApp, laptops, Studio takes it to the next level. Our new high-definition 1080p camera creates brighter, sharper images, especially in low light conditions. The experience further enhanced by AI features developed specifically for Surface in Windows 11. Like our Cloud Class Base Tracker. It perfects exposure in lighting for you on video calls recognizing and enhancing your face in the toughest lighting conditions no matter what you're wearing, whether it's a hat, sunglasses, a mask, doesn't matter. What did I just say? When using this camera, you look great and that matters. Our new studio mics are exactly what you need, with advanced echo control and full-duplex, ensuring your voice is perfectly crystal clear on every single call you make. Even when two people are talking at the same time or you're in a noisy environment, nothing drops. It's just clear. This entire device there is so much that comes together on it. I think you're going to love it.
Now let me take a minute and talk to the devs out there. I want to tell you how powerful Surface Laptop Studio can be specifically for you. I mean this laptop, it can compile code like nobody's business. Our AI Dev Team created that face tracker. They used the GPU power on this machine to prototype out the neural network. The results, I mean they are stunning. When you use it, you will feel it. Microsoft loves developers. We always have and we want to empower you with the best tools to create from AI to web to native apps. With software like Windows 11 and now the hardware like Surface Laptop Studio, there is no limit to what you could do, nothing, no ceiling. The best person to share that with you and tell you more about it, one of my favorite devs, Scott. Hey, Scott. >> Hey, friends. During the day at Microsoft, I'm a manager and a programmer and I work on open source.NET, and C#.
But at night, I've got a blog and a podcast and a YouTube channel and even a TikTok that I work on. I'll go from coding and writing specs to recording and editing videos. I have to multitask pretty much all the time. I just love making stuff. This is the first Surface hardware that I've been involved in from the very start. Selfishly, I want a laptop that's got a ton of CPU and a ton of RAM because it all saves me time.
Of all the laptops that I've used over the years, Laptop Studio is the only one that felt like it could keep up with me. In fact, here I'm in Visual Studio 2022 and I'm actually working on my podcast website. I've even got Windows Terminal and the Windows subsystem for Linux. Here I'll go and do a full build of my website. When I got hands-on with this device for the first time, I realized that the Surface team gave me some great features that I didn't really know that I needed.
This display is 120 Hertz and it's smoother than any other laptop I've used before. This glass precision touchpad, it feels great; it's the right size, it's really responsive. People who know me, they know that I like to customize things. I'm a proud member of big mouse gang, so I've got a giant green cursor, but I've also customized my touchpad. I changed the haptic feedback the way I like it. It feels really cool to click. When it comes to performance, Surface Laptop Studio brings it. It builds source code fast as my desktop. My desktop can build ASP.NET from source in about a minute fourty-five. Laptop Studio does it in a minute fifteen. It's got 32 gbs of RAM and a super-fast SSD. It's built my website in just eight seconds, the performance is bananas. Now I love that I could be working anywhere while creating things. Then I can later dock in and I can multi-task with more screen space.
I'm going to go and dock in my desk here. Look at that. Now that I'm fully docked at my desk, I've two external 4K displays connected to the Surface Dock or with this device, I've got Thunderbolt with even more options. Something I love doing when I'm docked is to put the Laptop Studio into stage mode. This way I can make the most of it. It's come closer to me and it's very natural for me to be coding on my displays and then using my thumb to scroll through a web page that I'm referring to on Laptop Studio. I can even bring over my big keyboard and mouse, or I can grab my Surface Slim Pen that's been snugly recharging under here.
I'm going to undock because sometimes I don't find inspiration here, I'll find it somewhere else, keeps things separate in my mind. What I'm want to do is also keep my virtual desktop separate. Right now I'm in the development desktop and I'll use a four-finger swipe to switch over to the video editing desktop. This is perfect. Now we can review the latest cut and I can talk to someone and maybe make some edits on the fly.
Now, I'm going to do something non-typical. I'm going to edit video with a pen. I'm going to move the screen down into studio mode and look, the Windows 11 UI changes. Here in Premiere Pro Beta, it changes too, it's aware, it knows. Now I can use the Slim Pen to move the play head around. It's a really cool way to do something that's traditionally done with the mouse. Now as I start to wind down for the night, I might close a few things so I can have some fun. I can take the Laptop Studio anywhere to game. On this trip, I brought my Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller.
Here's Forza Horizon 5, running at 60 frames a second locally on high settings. This is a game-changer product for me. It's the fastest Surface I've ever owned, it's a great form factor. All this amazing hardware plus Windows 11, it's a creator's dream. I hope you enjoy using the Surface Laptop Studio as much as I do. Thank you very much. >> I hope you love everything you saw today. All these products will be available along with Windows 11 starting on October 5th. I'm so pumped. I can't wait for you to get your hands on these.
You can go ahead and pre-order today. Now it took thousands of people across Windows and Surface and Microsoft to pull these products together for you. They put their heart, soul, their passion into it. These products reflect this team. I'm so grateful for what you do. We want to thank you. Nothing inspires us more than watching you use products like these to change the world. Here to say a few words, Satya. Hey, Satya. >> Thank you so much, Panos. The past 18 months have reminded us how essential the PC is to work, life, learning, and connecting. With Windows 11, we have renewed sense of the role Windows plays in the world. It offers personal agency and real choice to users. It's a stage for the world's creation. It's a platform for platform creators. With each new generation of Windows, we also unlock the next generation, of hardware innovation across our entire ecosystem. With our Surface news today and the new devices many of our OEM partners have announced in recent weeks, we are seeing this come to life once again.
For us, Surface has always been a catalyst for innovation across the entire ecosystem. Its pioneered new form factors, inspired new interaction models, and created entirely new categories of devices. Today, we're building on that legacy, advancing the two-in-one category, creating a new laptop category, and reimagining what you can do with two screens. But when it comes to innovation, we must advance both the frontiers of technology and its impact in the world. Technology for technology's sake serves no one. If you're serious about innovation, you must also be serious about accessibility for everyone and the sustainability of our most finite resource, our planet. To create a more accessible future, we need advances that help the more than one billion people with disabilities around the globe. It's why we're working to make every device more accessible without ever compromising on form or function. To create a more sustainable future, we are committed to becoming carbon negative, zero waste, and water positive by 2030.
You see this commitment reflected across the value chain from sourcing of our materials to the packaging. Finally, we believe the Cloud and Edge AI together will define the future of every application. Take the Laptop Studio, with the AI models running on the device combined with the power of Teams, you're able to optimize your voice, your video no matter your background noise or lighting. These same advancements also apply to applications people use every day to create and connect across our ecosystem, whether it's reframing videos in Adobe Premiere, creating music with StaffPad, or even reviewing an ultrasound with GE Healthcare's Voluson. This is just the start. I've been using Windows 11 on many of the devices you saw today, and I can't tell you how much of a game-changer they have been for me. Ultimately though, we build Windows for you so you have the tools to dream big and turn those dreams into reality. We are so excited to see what each of you will create with these new devices and how together we will shape the next wave of computing for everyone.
Thank you all so very much. [MUSIC] >>It all starts now [MUSIC].
(instrumental music) – Folding phones are boring. Look we've had the first wave of foldable devices and they're neat, but you've seen all that already. This is about what comes next after the current generation of foldables. Sling like the tri-fold from TCL, a wild new concept, folding tablet, phone thing. (techno-music) Unlike most foldables the tri-fold has two hinges, which lets it fold up into thirds . You can use it as a phone, you can unfold it once to use as a bigger screen or fold the unfolded into a full size tablet. It's not a half way compromise like some of the other foldables that we've seen which basically turn into just slightly wider phone displays.
This is a full blown tablet. It's nearly as big as an iPad, but you can still fit it in your pocket. The screen folds from a 10 inch tablet down to 6.65 inch phone. You could also open it two-thirds the way and ya know prop that up it'll auto rotate so you can use in whatever orientation you want. There's a lot of weird use cases that you could probably use this for. The screen on this one is a 3k panel, but again that's just this prototype.
We have no idea if the finished version will have that, but the tri-fold shows just how hard it's gonna be to turn these ideas into reality. I've gotten to play around with the prototype for a bit and it's really rough to use right now. It is incredibly heavy for a phone. It's got those big metal hinges and there are three separate batteries to power all those displays, it's basically three phones.
And even though it's really thin as a tablet the phone mode is super thick and that's before your worrying about things like the software, which is basically non-existent. Durability which is a huge question or price which who even knows. (techno music) But looking even further into the future. TCL also had a very early mock up of a rollable phone. This is really cool idea that's a phone that has a fully flexible display that slides around the side and behind the phone. And it could roll back out and become a larger display when you need more space. The way it will, in theory, work is that there's gonna be motors on the inside of the phone and you'll press a button and it'll expand out from a 6.75 inch display to a 7.8 inch screen.
Now that doesn't sound like a lot, but your actually getting almost double the screen space it's almost twice as wide. The whole system is actually pretty similar to the rollable Oled TV that LG's been showing off for years. Now again this is a really early concept, it's not even a functional device, just plastic and a screen that's literally just a sheet of paper.
Is this a good idea? Who knows. It does avoid some of the issues of current foldables, like those easily breakable hinges and the creased display which is cool. But it's almost guaranteed to have issues of its own. Moving parts they're tricky. Now the tri-fold is just a proof of concept and the plastic sliding one even more so. You won't actually be able to buy either of these devices and it's not clear if TCL's actually gonna make products based on these concepts in the future.
So why should you care. Well, first of all, because it's cool. I mean look at this thing it's a phone that unfolds into a giant full size tablet. And it actually turns on and runs android, it's like a science fiction prop. But it's also important, because TCL is planning on eventually making foldable and rollable phones that might actually look like these. Possibly as early as next year. The company says that it's experimenting with dozens of different form factors right now.
So it's possible that phones like these, could be real one day. Look phones have basically been the same for the last decade. Black boxes with touch screens. Devices like the tri-fold or that sliding concept, even if they're not here yet, show off what the future phones might one day look like. And that's really exciting idea. Thanks so much for watching. If you want to see more videos about cool phones check out our Galaxy S20 ultra review. You can actually buy that one.
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The thing that I like about Android is there can be so many different kinds of phones, just a lot of weird choices. But lately, it seems like there are really only two choices, at least in terms of screen size. There's regular and there's extra large, which is why I was so excited to try this phone right here, the Sony Xperia 1. I mean, just look at this good tall boy. It's got a 21:9 aspect ratio, which makes it relatively narrow and super, well, tall. I think it's a fascinating phone, and it's way nicer than I expected it to be. But I don't think it can really justify its $950 price. Let me tell you why. Now, a lot of people would like to have a big-screened phone, but they're put off by how big these phones feel.
And that's the reason I like the Xperia 1. It has a big screen, there is no doubt about it. It's 6.5 inches. But it's quite a bit narrower than this OnePlus 7 Pro here. So you get the benefits of seeing more stuff on your screen, like on the web or on Twitter, without the drawback of feeling like you have a big honking glass slab you can barely wrap your fingers around. This phone is also really good if you like to do split-screen apps, which… I don’t know, I guess people still do that. I never do. Anyway, it's nicer to hold, but that doesn't make it a one-handed phone by any stretch of the imagination.
You're still going to need to use your second hand to reach the top of the screen. Sony has a couple of software tricks that help with how tall this phone is, but neither of them are great. You can double tap the home button to make a smaller version of the screen. Or there's this other thing with… Er, wow. What are you doing there, Chuckles? Huh. Sorry, let's back up. Or you're supposed to be able to tap either side of the screen or swipe on it to do other stuff. It's called Side Sense, and it kind of sucks. I can never get it to work when I want it to, and it pops up all of the time when I don't want it to.
Now the reason that Sony says it made this phone at this weird, tall aspect ratio is for watching movies, and Sony says that it has a 4K HDR OLED screen. It also has, quote, “professional level color reproduction.” So it can be in the DCI-P3 color gamut. It can also be in the BT.2020 color space if you care about that. And it has the D65 white point. There's this whole “Creator Mode” thing. Basically, Sony is trying to make this phone appeal to people who really care about video quality, both watching it and recording it. But Sony, the thing is, if you're going to do that, this screen should get way brighter. It is way more dim compared to other OLED screens. Anyway, yeah, I will say watching a 21:9 movie on this phone with its Dolby stuff, without letterboxing or weird camera cutouts, is great. But the truth is that most of the video that I watch is not 21:9.
It’s stuff on YouTube, and so I still end up having big black bars on the left or the right. Or, if I expand it full screen, I end up cutting off people's heads. Now, I do think this phone is pretty good from a build quality perspective. It's got Gorilla Glass and IP68. It's got some bezels, but they're not too big, and it's just nice to hold. But, you know, of course there's no headphone jack. But there's no getting around how it being this tall makes it really awkward. It's so tall, it couldn't fit in my pocket. I was sitting down, and it just slid right out of my pocket and clattered on the concrete, which is why there are dings on the edges of the phone on our review unit, which is sad. The buttons are also awkward.
They're all on the right side of the phone and, I don’t know, the fingerprint sensor is separate from the power button for some reason. And sometimes it gets a little dirty and you have to wipe it off before it will actually work. I do like that there is a dedicated camera button. But overall, when I'm trying to use this phone, I just end up hitting the wrong button, like, all of the time.
On the back, there are three 12-megapixel cameras. There's a regular, a 2X telephoto, and a wide. Sony put some nice optical image stabilization on the main lens, and you know what? Finally, Sony has made a phone with a camera that's pretty good. It's not quite as good as a Pixel 3 or a OnePlus 7 Pro to my eyes, but it's finally respectable.
I do wish that the telephoto was more than 2X, but the wide angle one, it's really fun. I kind of love it. But I don't love Sony's camera software. The wide angle thing makes you pick between prioritizing image quality or distortion. The auto made doesn't do HDR by default, and there's just a bunch of other settings that just really look and feel kind of silly. Anyway, let's get into the results of what I actually get out of these lenses. I think that Sony prefers leaving detail in, even though that also leaves in a bunch of noise. It also doesn't do as aggressive HDR as I would like unless you have to, you know, manually turn it on.
But the thing that did surprise me is that even though there's no dedicated night mode, sometimes it actually really nails it anyway, even if it's incredibly dark. Now, you can shoot 4K, and that's one of the reasons this phone exists. And so Sony also included a Cinema Pro app that lets you really dial in all these manual settings for shooting 4K video. Unfortunately, the 8-megapixel camera on the front is junk.
It's really not good. I don't know, man. If this phone didn't cost $950, I'd probably be a little bit less nit-picky, but you know what? It does. So I am. In terms of software and performance, I actually don't have a ton of complaints. It's a fairly clean version of Android 9 with just a few bells and whistles. It has a Snapdragon 855 processor so it's fast, and there's 6GB of RAM, which is decent, but not stellar. I am a little bit grumpy that there's only one storage option: 128GB of storage. If you're going to want more, and especially if you're going to want to shoot 4K, you're going to need to expand it. And you can because there's a microSD card slot. Battery life is average-ish for big phones. I'm getting over four hours of screen time, and it's lasting through a day, but there's only a 3,300mAh battery in here, and I kind of feel like that's not enough.
I would be happier with that if there was wireless charging on this phone. But no, there's not. It does do fast charging, but one neat thing Sony does is it won't fast-charge when it knows that you’re charging overnight, which helps with the overall life span of the battery, which means it should last longer, a year or two for now — at least in theory. Now, after all that, if you're still interested in this phone, you should also know that Sony as a company has kind of been deemphasizing phones since it hasn't been really successful with them in the past few years.
And that kind of makes sense, and I also think it makes sense for Sony to try something new and move into this niche of making tall boys, like this guy right here. Now, of course, you can spend less money and get a better phone like the OnePlus 7 Pro, but what you can't get is any other phone in this tall aspect ratio, so I like the idea of this form factor. I think that it should exist in the world of Android phones. So I'm glad that Sony's trying to make 21:9 happen. But I don't know that I'd recommend this particular phone to anybody. If you really, really, really love the tall screen or you really love what Sony does with video, then maybe.
But there's no getting around the fact that this is an expensive phone. For $950, I expect more, and you should, too. Hey, thank you for watching. Do you want a tall phone? Let me know in the comments below. Also, if you're wondering if there are other tall phones, we did review the Xperia 10 last month. It's kind of the same idea but cheaper and also, it's really bad for a whole other set of reasons.
But if you want to see a review of a good big phone, click here..
– Remember Windows Phone from way back when? Well Microsoft is kind of getting back into making smartphones. This is Surface Duo, and it runs Android. Not Windows or Windows Phone. That's right. Microsoft is making a Surface phone with Android. If that sounds surprising, it's because it really is. But we'll get back into the Android side in a minute. Duo is part of two new futuristic dual-screen devices that Microsoft announced today. And they're coming in Holiday 2020. Surface Duo has two 5.6 inch displays that fold out into an 8.3 inch device overall. And it's just 4.8 millimeters thin. It folds like many two-in-one laptops thanks to a 360 degrees hinge. And it's designed to get more done on the go. It looks tiny for this type of device, and it felt kind of like a Galaxy Note in my pocket. Now, I wasn't allowed to play around with the software on this device, but it looks and feels like a tiny pocket tablet that's also a phone. The difference between this and any other Android phone, except maybe the Galaxy Fold, is visually obvious.
But Microsoft thinks this is part of a new category of devices that allow people to do a lot more with tablets and phones than they do today. As part of this idea, Microsoft also announced a Surface Neo device today. Which has two larger 9 inch displays. The Duo and the Neo share a very similar design, but they don't share a common operating system. Neo, the larger dual-screen device, runs Windows 10 X, and has all your familiar desktop and tablet apps. The reason this isn't running Windows Phone is because Microsoft gave up on that operating system years ago, when it couldn't convince developers to create apps for it's devices. Now we sat down with Microsoft's Chief Product Officer, Panos Panay, on the Vergecast this week, to talk about why Microsoft chose Android this time for the Surface Duo.
– [Panay] Well because, those are the apps you want. I don't know how to answer it differently for you. Because there's hundreds of thousands of apps and you want them. Asati and I talked about it, it's about meeting our customers where they are. And I don't think the, you know, the mobile application platform's going anywhere any time soon, you need the apps. – So you'll get the apps you'd expect from a phone inside the dual-screen device, but how is this different from any other smartphone? I mean it obviously looks different. And the main idea is making use of these two displays in ways we're only starting to see other Android phone makers explore. You could run a game on one side, and a game pad on the other, or multi-task by dragging and dropping content between apps. Microsoft hasn't thought of everything you'd do with the Surface Duo just yet, but that's why it's announcing it now so developers can fill in the gaps.
They're really aiming to introduce a new form factor here, and a way for a device to adjust itself on the go, no matter the task. We've seen foldable devices from Huawei and Samsung, but the Duo has two separate displays that are made of glass, rather than foldable plastic. Which given the issues with Samsung's Galaxy Fold, that might be a good choice right now. Microsoft has been working on this hardware for three years, and Panos Panay tells us that this device won't change much by the time it debuts late next year.
The real key question will be whether Android app developers create the apps and experiences that really take advantage of this dual-screen device. And whether consumers want this type of hardware in a phone form factor in the first place. That's why Microsoft also has its largest Surface Neo device running Windows. And it really feels like the company wants to offer a Surface at every shape and size. Microsoft also seems to be implying that the operating system really doesn't matter for Surface devices anymore.
And it's willing to partner with Google and others to offer what makes sense. So does that means that Android is the future for Microsoft? – [Panay] (clears throat) No no no no no no. You want to give customers what they want in the form factor that they're using. We've learned this, you know, the right operating system on the wrong product or the other way around, pick your words, but what's the right operating system for the form factor? And in this case, in mobile devices, Android's the obvious choice. But anything above that, Windows is everything.
Superior for me. – So, will the Surface Duo and the Surface Neo combine in the future? Will there be a smartphone that turns into a tablet, that then turns into a laptop, then you dock and turns into a real PC? We're years away from anything even getting close to that. But it opens up the questions about where this dual-screen and foldable hardware is going exactly. And they're really hard questions to answer right now. Microsoft will now need to convince app developers and consumers that these dual-screen devices are truly the new device category that we've all been waiting for.
Wherever things end up, it looks like Microsoft want to be ready at every point with Surface. You want a phone that's a little bit more than a phone that has an extra display? Surface Duo. You want a tablet that transforms into a laptop? Surface Neo or Surface Pro. Microsoft is covering every hardware base here, and it's leaving it up to you to decide what device you actually need.
– [Panay] You know, I think like anything, look at the product you think is most interesting to you and where you think you can be more creative, that's what I would push. And I think this products gonna be there next year. Not in a hurry, you know, hang out. Take photos or do whatever it is you do on your phone today for a little bit longer and then, see if we can convince you that you can be more creative on this product. – It's been a crazy day of Surface devices and there's a bunch of hands-on videos you should check out on our YouTube channel.
Be sure to also definitely check out the Vergecast, 'cause it has the full interview with Panos Panay, and you don't wanna miss it..